Understanding The Value Of Social Media For Mortgage Businesses

Some pretty fantastic promises have been made regarding what social media can do for a business. Post daily on Facebook and triple your revenue in 3 months. Be more active on Linkedin, and leads will pour in by the hundreds. Reach 10,000 followers on Instagram, and your pipeline will be filled with qualified leads.

While social media is a catalyst for remarkable growth and revenue, it doesn’t happen quite so easily or quickly. It takes time –a continuous and strategic effort –to achieve measurable, long-lasting, revenue-generating results. 

However, the bottom line is that social media for mortgage businesses does, in fact, work. It’s just a matter of knowing how to work it and having the patience to do it for a sustained period. In fact, it can be one of your most powerful tools in lead generation and so much more. 

Let’s take a look at recent stats that every mortgage professional should be aware of regarding social media and consumer behavior:

  • 72.3% of Americans are on social media (Data Reportal)
  • 74% of social media users review business sites to make buying decisions (Statista)
  • Facebook is the largest organic lead source, second only to websites (Hootsuite)
  • The number of social media users in the US increased by 10 million between 2020 and 2021. (Data Reportal)
  • Information found on social media influences the shopping behavior of 75% of Americans (Adroit Digital)

Now that we’ve established that it’s is a powerful tool that’s worth the investment and effort, let’s drill down even further and explore the various ways social media benefits your mortgage business.

The Power of Social Media for Mortgage Business Growth

Increase Traffic To Your Mortgage Website

Social media posts are vital for driving more traffic to your mortgage website. You can do this by sharing content from your blog or with a graphic that directs them to a landing page. Be sure to include your main mortgage website on all your social media profiles, as motivated prospects often investigate a business’ online presence before contacting them.

Generate More Mortgage Leads

Social media is a critical part of your mortgage sales funnel, and as the number of users continues to boom, so does the opportunity to reach more prospects. Use the platforms to amplify your reach and put your lead capture form in front of more eyes.

The Power of Social Media for Mortgage Branding

Increase Brand Awareness of Your Mortgage Business

Social media users are open to discovering new brands on social media. Instagram recently released stats that showed that over 200 million users turn to their Explore page, and over 80% discovered a new product or service from their platform.  And with nearly 70% of Americans checking social media at least once a day, your brand is more likely to stay top of mind. 

Increase The Trust Factor with Your Prospective Borrower

Trust is the precursor to all transactions, especially when it comes to large ticket items like mortgage loans. Use the platforms as a way to increase trust by showcasing your company’s mission and values along with establishing your brand as a thought leader in the mortgage industry.

The Power of Social Media for Communication with Borrowers

Manage Your Mortgage Company’s Reputation

Even if you’re not currently active on social media, chances are that people are still talking about your business. Use social media as a listening tool and be part of the conversation about your services. If the conversation is positive, use it to highlight your business and win over more potential borrowers. If the conversation is negative, get ahead of the situation and attempt to resolve it before it turns into a major issue.

Engage With Borrowers and Prospects

When a person feels noticed and part of the conversation, the stronger the bond becomes. In the case of the prospective borrower, this bond makes it more likely that they’ll apply for a loan. For a current or past client, engaging with them builds loyalty that compels them to recommend your services to others and generate leads on your behalf. 

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Communication is as old as humanity itself, so the principles of social media are nothing new. However, the digital age has altered how best to execute communication via social media. The tools, strategies, pace, scale, and capabilities make it a total game-changer in the business world. Are you keeping up with the best practices in social selling? Or are you leaving that to your competitors? 

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Microsoft Bing expands Shopping options for users, gives retailers more options to reach shoppers

Bing Shopping now includes new customer-focused tabs to help shoppers find exactly what they’re looking for all in one place. The new tabs categorize commerce options under headers like Departments, Deals, Trending products, Price drops, Stores, and more. “These enhanced options provide useful hover menus and informative page guides which highlight choices, deals, and trends,” said the announcement.

With shopping season already upon us, the options for retailers are opening up. Both Google and Microsoft (as well as Facebook and other social channels) are investing in ways to help both small retailers and big-box stores be where they need for customers to find them. Search Engine Land sat down with Sumit Chatterjee, Lead Product Manager at Microsoft Shopping, to chat about the future of Shopping at Bing and how the product roadmap will continue to help both users and retailers find each other.

How Shopping has worked in the past. Chatterjee emphasized that Bing Shopping was previously very search-driven and often only included products from advertisers who paid to show up in the carousels and listings. In August of last year, the company opened up an organic shopping listing option to retailers who participated via the Merchant Center. The feed-based system was limited at first but has grown since. Before this option was available, though, only advertisers who paid to have their product show in listings were able to get traffic from this section of Bing Shopping.

Bing Shopping moving up-market. Along with the upgraded Shopping tabs, Chatterjee says that Microsoft is moving Shopping up the funnel. The company announced in September that Shopping options will soon be available in Edge. The updates will include “easy access to online expert reviews and customer ratings for over 5 million products right from the address bar when shopping in Microsoft Edge” said Liat Ben-Zur, Corporate Vice President. Along with Shopping directly from your browser, Chatterjee also hinted at new shopping options tapping directly into the Windows user base. 

Becoming a shopping recommendation engine. The new direction for Bing Shopping is to become a recommendation engine over just a search engine. Chatterjee explains that Microsoft is noticing three main types of shoppers who use Bing: trend seekers, passive shoppers, and deal seekers. Using privacy-focused shopper data, the shopping experience will eventually become “query-less” says Chatterjee. Being able to make “for you” recommendations will “add another dimension for users.” Bing will be able to customize shopping suggestions based on these shopper types and the overall retail landscape trends it’s seeing.

Bing shopper types. Trend seekers are looking for shopping recommendations based on what others are buying at the time. It could be fashion, trending holiday toys, or any other popular item or item type. For these types of shoppers, Microsoft will have recommended deals based on what the platform is seeing everyone else buying and the best pricing options for buyers. The “highly rated” indicator will also show that many other shoppers have reviewed a trending product for its quality. Passive shoppers would also benefit from the recommended or “for you” deals section. They may just be browsing to see what’s out there or out of boredom, so the personalized suggestions and indication of sales could be what tips them over the edge to buy. The deal seekers will be able to look into price history, ratings and reviews, too. A new section on the roadmap, Chatterjee explained, is a “Good/Great/Epic” deals section which will encourage these deal-seekers to buy while the prices are the best.

Stores have to opt in to make it work. In order for the model to work for both shoppers and retailers, stores will have to opt-in to providing their “entire corpus of products. Right now, they can do that through the Merchant Center:

  • If you’re currently a Microsoft Shopping Campaigns customer, there’s no action required by you to participate. All approved product offers in Microsoft Merchant Center will automatically be opted into [Bing Shopping listings]. 
  • If you’re not a Microsoft Shopping Campaigns customer, create a Microsoft Merchant Center store, submit all eligible products, and ensure they’re approved. When the Merchant Center store is created you’re opted-in to the free Product Listings offering, enabling your approved products to be eligible to show in the free products listings section on the Bing Shopping Tab.

Microsoft Bing’s new Shopify integration is another way they’re making this process as easy as possible for retailers. “Currently available in the U.S. and Canada, the Microsoft Channel app within Shopify allows businesses to show up automatically in the Microsoft Bing Shopping tab and the Microsoft Start Shopping tab for free as product listings,” Search Engine Land wrote in October of this year.

Going from a price comparison tool to a shopping destination. The Bing Shopping product roadmap includes new features that will bring convenience to purchase, Chatterjee also told Search Engine Land. Along with becoming a recommendation engine, Bing Shopping strives to become a shopping destination by integrating express checkout and shipping directly into Bing Shopping. Shoppers will be able to check out directly through Edge:

“To use this feature while shopping in Microsoft Edge, select guest checkout within the retailer site and then click Try express checkout in the address bar. If you’ve used this feature before, you’ll see your autofill information there. Review the information for accuracy and then click ‘Try all coupons and autofill details,’” said Ben-Zur.

The auto-fill option replicates services like Amazon’s one-click buy making the buying experience even more seamless for shoppers — and reducing checkout barriers that cause abandoned carts and prevent the final conversion.

Why we care. Chatterjee told us that there are 1 billion impressions per year in the Bing Shopping canvas. That number will likely only grow as Microsoft expands their shopping product offerings through to Edge and Windows. As a free listing service that opts in search marketers and retailers with easy-to-use integrations and feed-based systems, it seems like a no-brainer that commerce marketers and even SMBs could benefit from participating in their Shopping roadmap. Many shoppers already use the Bing Shopping tabs to price-compare, which can lead to products seeming like commodities. Many retailers would prefer their shoppers land on-site to discover the value of their products and drive value-based conversions. However, the buy now and checkout options could mean lower friction in the final buy. Either way, it’s worth participating in as the Shopping product continues to grow.

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Four new personas are changing how marketers reach and relate to customers, according to Microsoft Advertising

Microsoft Advertising has detailed four new consumer personas that represent changes in how marketers reach and relate to their audiences across verticals. The personas (luxury shopper, digital nomads, empowered activists and self-care enthusiasts) were identified via Microsoft’s first-party data and analytics over the last 18 months.

Luxury shoppers. This persona was primarily an in-store audience, but they increased in numbers at the outset of the pandemic as luxury retail locations closed. Even though physical locations have largely re-opened, the luxury shopper persona has remained, signifying a permanent consumer behavior shift.

Luxury shoppers “value quality and seek ways to make everyday items more luxurious,” Stephanie Worley, global brand marketer at Microsoft Advertising, wrote, “Their preference for luxury extends into expecting the same seamless, personalized shopping experience in online service as they would receive in-store.” They’re also thorough, conducting extensive research and using multiple queries to find brands that meet their standards. You can learn more about the luxury shopper persona from Microsoft’s study of first-party data for recent luxury shopping trends.

Digital nomads. Remote work became mainstream when offices closed last year. This location-independent audience works while traveling. “The behavior is so prominent, an entire industry is springing up around them,” Worley said, “One example is RVShare, one of the first RV rental marketplaces that nomads are excited about.”

As shoppers, this group uses online research across verticals as much or more than any other group: They’re regularly looking for housing and transportation, as well as the needs, services and amenities that go along with life on the road. They use mobile devices, change locations frequently and the search terms they use make them a viable target for numerous verticals, such as travel products, grocery and dining, entertainment, housing and transportation.

Empowered activists. This audience votes with their wallet, purchasing primarily from brands that align with their ethics and values, which might include stances on the environment, diversity and/or small business brands.

Marketing messages that resonate with their beliefs are more likely to have an impact on this group. They’re also more likely to be interested in and search for political, environmental and/or social issues.

Self-care enthusiasts. The anxiety, stress and fear of the pandemic, combined with uncertainty from political and social upheaval, has led some consumers to turn to self-care for relief. Thus, mental and physical health are a priority for this group.

“Self-Care Enthusiasts are masters at switching between work and life during the day,” Worley said, “Because of this, they expect to get information quickly and to have a seamless digital experience across multiple devices.” They’re often searching for fitness ideas, diet tips, ways to manage their professional and personal lives and leisure activities in their hybrid work-life reality.

Why we care. Identifying what’s important for your target audience is crucial to creating products, services and messaging that actually resonates with them. Their behavior is a reflection of their priorities and showing them that your brand supports those priorities can mean more opportunities to convert.

The emerging personas that Microsoft Advertising has identified were born out of the disruption consumers experienced since the start of the pandemic. If brands are able to demonstrate that their products and values are evolving with the needs of their audiences, they may also be able to extract more customer lifetime value from them.

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Google launches new way for publishers to use first-party data to enhance targeted advertising

Searcher and user privacy is the topic of the year when it comes to digital advertising. Many search marketers and publishers are wondering how initiatives like FLoC and FLEDGE (if they ever make it to market) will affect their daily practices. The initiatives have spurred on a renewed interest in how advertisers and publishers ask for, collect, and use first-party data.

Google announces new way for publishers to use first-party data. In an announcement today, Google said it is offering a new way for publishers to share Publisher-provided identifiers (PPIDs) with Google’s programmatic demand to better customize ads, targeting, and advertising experiences. “By helping publishers expand the use of their first-party identifiers to more transaction types, like the Open Auction, our partners will be able to show ads that are more relevant to their audiences, which will increase the value of their programmatic inventory,” said Steve Swan, Product Manager, Google Ad Manager.

How do PPIDs work? A “Publisher provided identifier or PPID allows publishers to send Google Ad Manager an identifier for use in frequency capping, audience segmentation and targeting, sequential ad rotation, and other audience-based ad delivery controls across devices,” according to Google’s documentation on the topic.

How the new system works. The announcement says that the new form of PPID sharing will both protect privacy and help publishers and advertisers:

  • Before sharing PPIDs with Google demand, Ad Manager turns them into per-publisher partitioned IDs, so users cannot be identified across other publishers’ sites and apps.
  • Then Google Ads and Display & Video 360 aggregate the anonymized data from participating publishers to help build audience segments.
  • Using these segments, advertisers can programmatically deliver relevant ads on publishers’ sites and apps based on first-party data.
  • In addition to helping publishers earn more revenue in the auction, the data also unlocks core functionality for advertisers, like cross-device reach, frequency management, and creative optimization in programmatic inventory without third-party cookies or other identifiers present.

The announcement also emphasizes that advertisers who will be able to build segments off of the PPID data will not be able to see individualized information or user data, “and because PPIDs are unique to each publisher, there is no way to match identifiers or create profiles across sites,” added Swan.

What is first-party data? First-party data is information that websites, advertisers, and publishers collect directly from users and searchers (that they give voluntarily). This includes things like the actions they take on your websites, the data they submit to forms, social data, survey information, and data that already exists in the company’s CRM.

Why we care. Google prioritized this update based on user feedback, mentioned Swan: “Investing in first-party data is a privacy-forward way that publishers can increase the value of their programmatic inventory now and in the future. Given the feedback we’ve heard from partners, we have prioritized this product area and will continue to develop features that empower publishers with the data and identity tools they need to prepare and grow their businesses.” Given the tumultuous relationship Google has had with publishers, this move could help news and other outlets recoup some of the revenue that might be lost to Google’s other policies. This also could benefit the advertisers who show ads on these publications to show a more targeted and useful inventory to readers while keeping user privacy top of mind.

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Google updates AdSense Policy center look, adds new feature updates for advertisers

Google introduced their Policy center for Ad Manager, AdMob and AdSense to ensure that Ad Managers had a comprehensive view of potential violations that would prevent their ads from displaying to searchers. The Policy center also ensured that publishers were able to keep as much of their inventory compliant with Google Ads policies. Along with an updated interface, Shreyas Deshmukh, Product Manager at Google Ads, said new features are available for users of the product.

Account health summary updated. The improved account health summary gives a zoomed-out view of the total number of sites and/or apps with issues. The health summary also shows a red highlighted section for issues that are categorized as must fix. “This can help publishers better prioritize the issues that require their attention. The account health summary also shows the impact on ads serving for any given page where ads have been disabled or restricted,” said Deshmukh.

Source: Google AdSense

More filtering options. “Publishers can now filter the tables using single or multiple columns, such as all issues reported on a given date that are a ‘Must fix.’ A list of issues can also be downloaded as a CSV file for a filtered view,” added Deshmukh. The new filtering and search systems make sure Ad Managers can highlight specific or high-priority issues in order to focus on what matters most to their accounts at that time.

Comprehensive view of issues across ad inventory. Along with the ability to look at overall ad health and sort by specific issues, there is a new table view so “Ad Manager publishers have a more comprehensive view of issues across their inventory.” The new table now includes an aggregate column “Ad requests – last 7 days” so publishers can determine the impact that violations have on their accounts.

Source: Google AdSense

Why we care. The announcement also indicates that upcoming features include “enabling screenshots of issues in the Policy center. This will help you pinpoint exactly where the issue is, and give you the context to fix it quickly.” Along with an easier-to-use interface, these sorting and updated view features will give publishers better insight into issues that are holding up their accounts and the tools to fix them quickly.

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Google tool for reporting domain verification and user management issues with Search Console

Google Search Console is piloting a new method to contact Google for support related to Google Search Console. Google opened up previously a method to contact Google about indexing issues. This new tool is to contact Google about domain verification and user management issues with Google Search Console, the company said on Twitter.

New tool. Google said “Earlier this year, we expanded our program for site owners to report urgent bugs or other issues related to indexing. That program has been working well, so we’re expanding it to handle domain verification and user management issues for Search Console.”

Report verification issues. You can now report verification issues in the Google Search Console help docs over here. If all your debugging fails, scroll to the bottom of that help document and click on “report verification issue.”

Report user management issues. You can also report user management issues in a different Google Search Console help doc, over here. If you are having issues with user management in Search Console and you cannot figure it out, click on the “report user management issues” button.

Pilot release. You may not see this feature in the help documents yet. Google said this feature is “currently piloting this in the US only and it should be fully available to all in the US within a week or less.” Plus this is only supported for English now. Google said the company will “reassess the usefulness of a support expansion in this direction in a few weeks.”

Why we care. For some, verifying your domain name and gaining access to Google Search Console can be an issue. These new contact methods will give those having issues more methods to verify and gain access to their sites in Google Search Console. And access to Google Search Console unlocks a ton of useful information, reporting, and debugging for site owners.

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Yahoo! withdraws from China, becoming the second major American tech company in a month to leave the country

Yahoo! halted its services in mainland China on Monday, according to Reuters. The company cited an “increasingly challenging business and legal environment” and is the second major American platform to shutter its Chinese operations over the last month.

America’s tech presence has evaporated in China. In October, Microsoft announced that it would shut down its localized version of LinkedIn in China, similarly citing “a significantly more challenging operating environment.” The Chinese government has also made numerous other platforms, including Facebook, Google, Instagram, Twitch, Twitter, Pinterest, Reddit and YouTube, unavailable to its domestic users. Bing seems to be the only major platform for search marketers that is still accessible to Chinese users.

Why operating in China may be unfeasible for American companies. Under Chinese law, companies must submit their data to local authorities if requested to do so. The data could be used to identify and persecute dissidents, as it was in 2007 when Yahoo! turned over sensitive e-mails to Chinese authorities. Thus, companies operating in China may face pressure from the local government there but also back in America for helping Chinese authorities suppress free speech.

Although not specifically cited in Yahoo!’s statement, the withdrawal coincides with China’s new Personal Information Protection Law, which also went into effect on November 1, 2021. The law limits what data companies can collect and establishes requirements for how it must be stored. In Microsoft’s announcement that it was closing the localized version of LinkedIn, the company cited “greater compliance requirements” as a cause for its departure.

Why we care. China has 854 million internet users, the most in the world and more than twice the amount of users in the U.S. (313 million). As the platforms that marketers can use to potentially reach the Chinese audience withdraw from the country, so too do opportunities to tap into that user base. The opposite is not necessarily true, however, as TikTok, which is owned by Chinese company ByteDance, is one of the most popular social media platforms in America at the moment.

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Sarah Bird, CEO of Moz, leaving Moz after 14 years

Sarah Bird, the CEO of Moz, said that it is “time for me to move on and make space for new voices, new leaders,” on the company blog. After 14 yeas with the company, almost 8 of those years as the CEO of Moz, and the previous years as Moz’s President and COO, she is leaving the company.

Sarah Bird took over as the CEO in January 2014, after Rand Fishkin, the co-founder, stepped down from that role. Rand Fishkin explained that Sarah Bird was the President and COO of the company and was taking over as the CEO then. She has been with the company for 6 years and has been acting in many ways as the company’s CEO, prior to her taking on that role. In 2017, Rand Fishkin left day-to-day operations of the company.

Moz has been through many ups and downs over the years but most recently in June of this year, just about five months ago, Moz was acquired by iContact. While Sarah Bird did not specifically say much about the reason she is leaving outside of saying “I’m going to take the winter off to reflect, rest, and cherish my loved ones. I don’t know what the future holds for me, but I know it will be a grand adventure.” One can guess that she accomplished her goal of getting Moz acquired and is now moving on to a new role.

We wish Sarah Bird much luck with her next adventure and we wish Moz and its employees much success with its new leadership, which has yet to be disclosed.

Sarah Bird said “I feel good knowing that I’m leaving Moz, and all of you, in good hands.”

Why we care. Moz is one of the more reputable toolsets in the industry, we hope to see future leaders in the search community represent the company going forward.

For members of the search community at Moz, many of whom have been featured here or at SMX, we hope the future has exciting things in store for you at Moz.

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Google Ads’ new conversion goals group conversion actions for account- and campaign-level bidding optimization

Google Ads is introducing conversion goals, which group conversion actions into categories based on conversion type and can be used to optimize bidding at the account or campaign level, the company announced Monday. Alongside conversion goals, the company also announced a troubleshooting tool called Tag Assistant and explanations for Search campaigns.

Conversion goals. There are three types of conversion goals:

  • Standard goals — Conversion actions added by the advertiser, which are then automatically grouped into conversion goals based on their conversion category type (e.g., “Purchases,” “Contacts” or “Submit lead forms”).
  • Account-default goals — The standard conversion goals (above) that you have designated as your account default. When you create a new campaign, all account-default goals in your account are selected for optimization by default.
  • Custom goals — Goals that advertisers can create and add any combination of primary (used for bidding) and secondary conversion (not used for bidding) actions.

“For example, let’s say you’re an online clothing retailer. Going forward, you can set a purchase as your account-default goal so that all of your campaigns can optimize for that outcome,” Google said in the announcement, “Within this purchase goal, you’ll also be able to define which specific conversion actions, such as ‘completed sale’, should be used for bidding.” Advertisers can decide which individual conversion actions are used for bidding optimization when the goal it belongs to is used for bidding.

Advertisers will begin seeing their conversion actions grouped by these new conversion goals when they create new campaigns over the coming weeks. Existing conversion, conversion optimization and bidding settings will not be changed.

Tag assistant. Your conversion actions play an important role in facilitating the aforementioned conversion goals. To that end, Google is also introducing Tag Assistant, a tool that can help you diagnose issues with your conversion actions, such as unverified conversion actions, inactive tags or no recent conversions.

The new Tag Assistant in Google Ads. Image: Google.

Additionally, the Tag Assistant shows which conversion actions are being properly measured in real time.

Explanations for Search campaigns. Google has also added explanations for Search campaigns. “With explanations, you can view the reason for any change in conversion value in a single click,” the company said.

An example of an explanation in Google Ads. Image: Google.

Explanations are currently available for search campaigns using manual CPC, enhanced CPC, enhanced CPC for value, target CPA, maximize conversions, maximize clicks bidding, maximize conversion value and target ROAS, as well as app campaigns using target CPA.

Why we care. Conversion goals may simplify conversion management and improve campaign performance by giving Google’s machine learning more data to work with.

The Tag Assistant can help advertisers troubleshoot unverified or inactive conversion actions, which can help them more accurately record conversions.

And, explanations may help advertisers learn why account performance has changed, in one place, without having to cross-reference reports. This may also be useful for identifying potential reasons behind those performance changes.

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Google on Penguin algorithm; aims to ignore spammy links but can lead to distrusting your site

When Google released the real-time Penguin algorithm update, which some SEOs code-named 4.0, back in 2016, Google told us this version devalues or ignores most spammy links. For the most part, Google’s Penguin algorithm no longer penalized for bad links because it would aim to neutralize the spammy links and just not count them, as opposed to penalizing for them.

John Mueller, a Search Advocate at Google, said on Friday in a video question and answer session that Penguin does try to ignore the spammy links. However, in the cases where Google cannot because there is a “very strong pattern” of spammy links pointing to the site, Penguin may penalize and distrust the site as a whole and not act in the granular way it was designed for.

John Mueller said this at the 37:06 mark in this video he posted on Friday on the Google Search Central YouTube channel.

What was said. The question John was asked was “Is the Penguin penalty still relevant at all or less relevant spammy toxic backlinks are more or less ignored by the ranking algorithms these days.”

John responded, “I’d say it’s a mix of both.” He explained, “For the most part when we can recognize that something is problematic and any kind of a spammy link and we will try to ignore it.” “If our systems recognize that they can’t isolate and ignore these links across a website, if we see a very strong pattern there, then it can happen that our algorithms say well we really have kind of lost trust with this website and at the moment based on the bigger picture on the web, we kind of need to be more on almost a conservative side when it comes to understanding this website’s content and ranking it in the search results and then you can see kind of a drop in the visibility there.”

John is saying, that in some cases, Google’s Penguin link algorithm can demote the whole site based on the links and not just ignore the specific spammy links. But it seems like it has to be very high levels of spammy links.

“But for the most part like the web is pretty messy and we recognize that we have to ignore a lot of the links out there. So for the most part I think that’s fine. Usually, you would only see this kind of a drop if it’s really a strong and a clear pattern that’s associated with the website,” John added.

John came back on Twitter to clarify that “this is the case for many spam & low-quality signals” in the Google algorithms. He explained, “we’ll work to ignore the irrelevant effects, but if it’s hard to find anything useful that’s remaining, our algorithms can end up being skeptical with the site overall.” “Our spam algorithms are pretty nuanced and they do look at a number of factors,” he added.

Disavow links. So do we need to disavow links now, even when Google said we really don’t need to? The answer is no, you don’t need to disavow links. You can John Mueller said, “I’d either ignore it or use the disavow file (for the worse domains).”

The video. Here is the video embed where John said this:

SEO consultants chime in. I asked a few SEO consultants their opinion on what John said in this video and here is what they had to say:

Lily Ray, the Senior Director, SEO & Head of Organic Research of Amsive Digital told us, “John’s advice here shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to SEOs who have dealt with companies engaging in large scale link building initiatives using tactics that violate Google’s guidelines, only to encounter massive declines in ranking and traffic.” “Google doesn’t always send out a manual action when the sites run into trouble. But in many cases, sites can either struggle to rank or feel that they’ve received an algorithmic penalty without any formal notification. Often, when you take a look at their backlink profile and talk to the company about their SEO strategy, you might discover that most of the links are paid links, guest posts, footer links, exact match anchor text, etc. on websites no one has ever heard of. In these cases, I believe it’s important to reconcile Google’s trust issues with your site by disavowing the paid/offending links, as well as earning new, trustworthy links organically,” she added.

Glenn Gabe, SEO consultant at G-Squared Interactive told us, “Rolling out Penguin 4 was a great move by Google in 2016, since it devalued link spam versus penalizing it. But as John explained, if Google’s algorithms cannot find any useful links (which would be an extreme situation), and there is a strong and clear pattern of spammy links, then it can be skeptical with the site, and Google can lose trust with the site overall. As a result, the site can see a drop in search visibility. The problem is that many site owners believe they are being attacked via negative SEO (and that those link attacks are working — and it’s the reason they have seen drops over time). Google has explained in the past that negative SEO attacks don’t work and that its algorithms can just ignore the link spam (especially for sites with a normal mix of links). So for many of those sites fearing negative SEO attacks, the situation John covered in the latest Search Central Hangout would not really apply. In my opinion, if a site has an overwhelmingly spammy link profile (almost all of the links are unnatural and spammy), without any other quality links, then that obviously can be problematic. But for most sites that have a normal mix of links, what John is explaining should NOT be a problem. Unfortunately, I’m already hearing from site owners about this… when their sites definitely don’t fit into the situation John explained in the video.”

Dr. Marie Haynes, the CEO of MHC inc told us, “Google’s communication on what site owners need to know about Penguin has been frustrating. At a Pubcon conference in late 2016 Gary Illyes told us that it was indeed possible for Penguin to algorithmically cause harm saying, “If Penguin sees signs of manipulation, it can decide to discount ALL the links, which can be pretty bad for a site.” Our belief is that while this can happen, it is reserved for cases where there is an obvious history of links being built solely to manipulate PageRank on an astronomical scale. While we have seen improvements for some sites after filing a thorough disavow, even if no manual action is present, the only cases that we feel we can attribute improvements to disavow work are for sites with a history of years of very manipulative link building.”

Why we care. Ultimately, when it comes to link building, you should be careful. Don’t buy links, don’t look for cheap and easy ways to get links to your site. Make sure to review Google’s documented link schemes help document and stay far away from those methods.

When working on client sites that may have link issues, you need to decide if you really need to disavow links or not and then which links you should disavow. At the same time, Google is likely already ignoring most of the bad links, so you may not have to worry too much about it.

It may just be easier to avoid the practice of link building and build a website and content that other sites naturally want to link to without you asking them.

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